Abt 1500 - 1572 (72 years)
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Name |
John LAWRENCE |
Prefix |
Rev. |
Birth |
Abt 1500 |
England |
Gender |
Male |
Also Known As |
Laurence |
Reference Number |
318683 |
Reference Number |
334329 |
Reference Number |
60 |
WWW |
https://www.WikiTree.com/wiki/Lawrence-163 |
Death |
Apr 1572 |
England |
Person ID |
I458 |
Gummer |
Last Modified |
1 Aug 2024 |
Children |
| 1. Rev. John LAWRENCE, b. Abt 1525, Suffolk, England d. Sep 1609, Fressingfield, Suffolk, England (Age 84 years) |
| 2. Alice LAWRENCE, b. Abt 1538, Suffolk, England d. Bef 7 Apr 1613, Dedham, Essex, England (Age < 75 years) |
| 3. James LAWRENCE, b. Abt 1540, Suffolk, England  |
| 4. Susan LAWRENCE, b. Abt 1545, Moze, Essex, England d. Abt 13 Sep 1610, Dedham, Lexden, Essex, England (Age 65 years) |
| 5. Unknown LAWRENCE, b. Abt 1552, Suffolk, England  |
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Family ID |
F108 |
Group Sheet | Family Chart |
Last Modified |
1 Aug 2024 |
Family 2 |
Agnes VANDERBECKE, b. England d. Abt 22 Jan 1583, England |
Marriage |
10 Jun 1544 |
Sandwich, Kent, England |
Children |
+ | 1. Margaret LAWRENCE, b. Abt 1543, Fressingfield, Suffolk, England d. Bef 6 Apr 1625, Palgrave, Suffolk, England (Age < 82 years) |
| 2. Thomas LAWRENCE, b. 1551, Wissett, Suffolk, England d. Aft 1610, England (Age > 60 years) |
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Family ID |
F107 |
Group Sheet | Family Chart |
Last Modified |
1 Aug 2024 |
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Photos |
 | Lawrence-1342 and Lawrence-1260 appear to represent the same person because: same parents, spouse, dob |
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Notes |
== Biography ==
===Birth and Parents===
John Lawrence was born, say, 1500. [ Wood, 39 ]
===Siblings===
John Lawrence had a brother James, born, say 1505, of Dedham, yeoman, who married first probably ca 1545 Joan, widow of William Thorpe of Dedham, who died by 6 November 1544. Joan was buried in Dedham 3 January 1575/6 and James married secondly Barbara, who was appointed guardian of William Thorpe's only granddaughter, Rose Havelock, in 1576.
===Preacher===
He was a preacher.
John Lawrence is described by the antiquary, Thomas Tanner, Bishop of St. Asaph (1674-1735) as:
a famous preacher, a referend grave minister who had been a preacher to those who fleeing from religion in Q. Marie's day [1553-1558] met together in woods and secret places, as they could. He was a gentleman of a great estate and exdeeding ligberality to the poor; In the time of Q. Elizabeth he preached at Fessingfield. He owned St. James Park in South Elmham. [ Wood, 38. ]
===1544 Marriage===
"He may have married a relative of John Burward of Debach, Suffolk, who in his will dated 12 April 1572, left his lands in three parishes to the preacher's son John."
"Unless there were several children who died in infancy, the long interval between the birth of John Lawrence's son John and those of his other children is best explained by supposing the preacheer had two wives."
===1572 Death===
He may have died before 12 April 1572, the date John Burward of Suffolk left his lands in three parishes to John, son of John the preacher.
=== Children ===
"The postulated birth dates for the children are deduced from their marriages and/or the spans of their children's baptisms."
Children of John Lawrence, order of birth uncertain:#John Lawrence, of Fressingfield, born say 1525; m. (1) Anne Semmes; (2) Alice (Vesey) Gunville; (3) Mary (Coker) (Garrington) (Turer) Pellett. #Alice Lawrence, born say 1538; married William Garrard,#James Lawrence, born say 1540; held lands in Dedham on 30 April 1593 (see above). In 1600 he alienated the rectory of Syleham, Suffolk, to his brother Thomas Lawrence, gent. [ Lawrence Collection" (note 92], Books II and VII, both in Box 3. Cited by Wood, 39 ]#Margaret Lawrence, born say 1543; m. Richard Elmye. #Thomas Lawrence, born say 1545; married (1) Priscilla Alabaster; (2) Mirable __ #[[Lawrence-304|Susan Lawrence]], born say 1548; married Henry Sherman "the younger." *(Daughter) Lawrence, born say 1552; probably married Gilbert Hills."
== Research Notes ==
===Who are His Parents?===
His parents have not been determined. Wood has attempted to identify parents but not been successful. .
John's profile on Family Search shows him as the son of Edmund Lawrence (1484-1582) and Elizabeth/Eleanor Whetchill.
He has been detached from [[Lawrence-307|John I Lawrence]] and [[Holt-604|Elizabeth Holt]]
===Was he John Lawrence of Rumburgh?===
He is not the John Lawrence that died in 1590 in Rumburgh. That John left a will and we know his children from the will.
'''Disambiguation'''
The following two profiles may be two different persons:*[[Lawrence-307|John Lawrence]], (Lawrence-307) born 1500. Of Rumburgh, Suffolk. Married Elisabeth. Has disputed pedigree back to 1150.*[[Lawrence-163|John Lawrence]], (Lawrence-163) born 1500. Preacher. Suffolk. Children includes Susan.
===Did he Have a Lineage back to Henry of Wisset, Suffolk?===
There is a Lawrence lineage back to Henry of Wissett, however that is the purported lineage of John Lawrence of Rumburgh.
According to one source, the family line has been traced as follows: Henry of Wisset, Suffolk, Eng. (m. MARY); son of John of Wisset, de 1607 (m. Johan); son of John of Wisset, d. 1590 (m. Agnes); son of John of Riverburgh, d. after 1556 (m. Elizabeth); son of Robert; son of John of Rivenburg (m. Margery), made his will July 10, 1504, the year of his death; son of Thomas of Rivenburgh, Holton, Wisset and South Elmham; son of John of Agercorft, d. 1461; son of Nicholas; son of Sir Robert of Ashton Hall, son of Sir Robert of Ashton Hall (m. Margaret Holden of Lancashire); son of John d 1630 (m. Elizabeth Holt); son of John of Ashton Hall (m. Margaret, dau of Walter Chesford); son of James of Ashton Hall (m. 1252 Matilda de Washington, dau of John de Washington); son of Robert of Ashton Hall (m. a daughter of James Trafford of Lancashire); son of Robert of Ashton Hall; son of Robert Lawrence of Lancashire, England, born probably as early as 1150, who attended King Richard Coeur de Lion to the war of the Crusades in the Holy Land, and was knighted at the siege of Acre "Sir Robert of Ashton Hall" and obtained for his arms "Argent, a crown raguly gules, A.D. 1191." The line of ancestry being thus traced in sixteen generations to the American ancestor, and in twenty-three t the present living descendants. See Lawrence genealogy, Boston, 1869.[American Ancestry, Vol II, pp 71-2]
In tracing the ownership of Crane's, we can surmise the following Lawrence lineage:
* Thomas Lawrence,
* Son John m Margery (John d 1504)
* Son John 1528
* Son John m Elizabeth 1559
* Probably John d 1590
* Son Richard
* Son George
I'm not sure if this John is perhaps the John who owned Cranes in 1528.
===Did he marry Agnes Vanderbecke?===
Family search notes that Agnes Vanderbecke married John Lawrence on 10 Jun 1544 in Sandwich, Kent, England.[ Family Search. [https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NNF8-G5W Marriage to Agnes Vanderbecke] Accessed 4 September 2023 [[Day-1904|jhd]] ]
"John Lawrence" is a relatively common name and no evidence has been brought forward to show that this refers to John Lawrence, the preacher.
===Did he receive a "Pardon of Alienation"?===
"On 13 November 1587 at Westminster there was a "Pardon of Alienation" for John Lawrence of Southelmham, to whom by will 12 July 1574 [sic] the late John Burward bequeathed his lands in Brqdfield, Bouze, and hacheston, co. Suffolk, for 6s 8d paid to the Queen's farmer." However, Wood notes, the records at the Society of Genealogists assembled by a modern researcher of Burwards and Burwoods do not show an obvious relationship to rexplain the bequest.
On 13 November 1587 at Westminster, there was a Pardon of Alienation for John Lawrence of Southelmham, to whom by will 12 July 1574 [sic] the late John Burward bequeathed his lands in Bredfield, Bouze, and Hacheston, co. Suffolk, for 6s. 8d. paid to the Queen's farmer. ["Draft Calendar of Patent Rolls, 28-29 Elizabeth, 1585-1587, C66/1291-1303," List & Index Society 243 (1991), Part XVIII, p. 185, abstracted from C66/1303 membrane 19. The volume is incorrectly described on the spine and title page to be C66/1271-1291.] However, the records at the Society of Genealogists assembled by a modern researcher of Burwards and Burwoods [B. F. Burwood, "Burwood Families," 5 parts bound as 2 vols. (1994), at the Society of Genealogists.] do not show an obvious relationship or explain the bequest."[https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/L2S2-LLC?icid=amp_hdr_signin ]
== Sources ==
'''Bibliography of Frequently Cited Works'''
*Wood, Michael Johnson (2013). ''The Earliest Shermans of Dedham, Essex, and Their Wives, Part 2. Henry Sherman The Younger And His Wife.'' (continued from Register 166 [2012]:258) [[Space:NEHGR|The New England Historical & Genealogical Register]] (NEHGS, Boston, Mass., January 2013) Vol. 167, WN 665, Page 35-41.
'''See also'''
* Lawrence, John. The Genealogy of the Family of John Lawrence. Boston: Nichols and Noyes, 1869.*Historic Homes and Places and Genealogical and Personal Memoirs Relating to the Families of Middlesex County, Massachusetts, Volume 4, by William Richard Cutter, publ. by Lewis historical publishing Company, 1908, p. 1523 - https://books.google.com/books?id=nn1yyHiYJFYC&pg=PA1523&lpg=PA1523&dq=john+lawrence+fressingfield+suffolk&source=bl&ots=0azKkjh3fv&sig=ACfU3U0CfSifa49RIpyeXKATpZMCHLgmmw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjf7crR6d_rAhWIknIEHRPlDFs4ChDoATAFegQIChAB#v=onepage&q=john%20lawrence%20fressingfield%20suffolk&f=false
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