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John COOMBS, I

John COOMBS, I

Male 1610 - 1646  (36 years)

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  • Name John COOMBS 
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    Birth 1610  Hempstead, London, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Gender Male 
    Also Known As Combs, Combes, Coombe, Coombes 
    Reference Number 1138654 
    Reference Number 1161107 
    Reference Number 60 
    WWW https://www.WikiTree.com/wiki/Coombs-58  
    Death 15 Oct 1646  Plymouth, Plymouth Colony Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Person ID I196  Gummer
    Last Modified 1 Aug 2024 

    Family Sarah PRIEST,   b. Abt 1615, Leiden, Holland, Republiek der Zeven Verenigde Nederlanden Find all individuals with events at this locationd. Aft 1 Aug 1648, England Find all individuals with events at this location (Age > 33 years) 
    Marriage 1632  Plymouth, Plymouth Colony Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Children 
    +1. John COOMBS,   b. Abt 1632, Plymouth, Plymouth Colony Find all individuals with events at this locationd. Bef 29 May 1668, Boston, Suffolk, Massachusetts Bay Colony Find all individuals with events at this location (Age < 36 years)
     2. Francis COOMBS,   b. Abt 1635, Plymouth, Plymouth Colony Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 31 Dec 1682, Middleborough, Plymouth Colony Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 47 years)
    Family ID F52  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
    Last Modified 1 Aug 2024 

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  • Notes 
    • {{Estimated Date}}
      {{Puritan Great Migration}}
      == Biography ==
      === Name ===:John Coombs (the name is spelled Coombs by Robert C. Anderson in the ''Great Migration'' series)Anderson, Robert Charles, [http://www.americanancestors.org/databases/great-migration-begins-immigrants-to-ne-1620-1633-vols-i-iii/image/?pageName=476&volumeId=12107&rId=235176405 John Coombs: Featured Name.] in ''The Great Migration Begins: Immigrants to New England 1620-1633, vol. 1: A - F'', (Boston: NEHGS, 1995): pages 476-479.

      :Orthographic variations: COOMBS, COMBE, COMBES, COMBS, COOMES, COMES

      === Origins ===:The origin of John Coombs is not known with certainty. In 1960, a ''Genealogies in Progress'' note in the NEGHR suggested that his ancestry had been proven, and was scheduled to be published.NEHGR, vol. 114 no. 4 (October 1960): [http://tinyurl.com/y828jt8p page 310]. Unfortunately, the evidence never appeared in print. In 1968, the NEHGS Committee on Heraldry identified him as John Combes of Hemel Hempstead, Hertfordshire, England (probably using the same source as the 1960 note).NEHGR, vol. 122 no. 2 (April 1968): [http://tinyurl.com/yc4e5jdx page 94]. Again no evidence was given.
      :Anderson in his 1995 ''Great Migration Begins'' biography of John Coombs, noted the above references but called his origins unknown based on the lack of evidence. He made his birth date as about 1610 based solely on his marriage estimated date of by 1632. John Coombs could have been born significantly earlier than this.
      :In 1996, noted Pilgrim researcher Robert Wakefield published ''The Probable English Origin of Mr. John Coombs of Plymouth Colony'' in The American Genealogist.The American Genealogist, vol. 71 (1996): [http://tinyurl.com/yalvjwpp pages 247-250]. Wakefield identified the New England immigrant as '''probably''' being John the son of [[Coombs-56|Francis Combe]] and [[Pope-291|Jane Pope]], baptized 13 March 1596/7 in Hemel Hempstead. The evidence being primarily that
      #John Coombs named a son Francis#The will of his (possible) brother Francis Combs in 1641 gave land to brothers Tobias and William, but only money to brother John. This would be an indication that his brother John was no longer living in Hemel Hempstead.#The will of his (possible) brother William Combs in 1656 named his brother John "if he then be living." This is wording commonly used when someone had moved away and had not been heard from in some time.
      :This evidence is suggestive, and makes it good possibility that the immigrant John Coombs was the son of [[Coombs-56|Francis Combe]] of Hemel Hempstead. However, the identification cannot be considered proven.


      === Immigration ===We do not know the date or ship of John Coombs' immigration. His first mention in the Plymouth record was on 12 March 1630, when "Mr. John Coombe" purchased from Ralfe Wallen a house and garden plot.
      John's name was included on the Plymouth list of those made free before 1 January 1632/3. However on 3 September 1639, the Plymouth Court decided "Mr. John Combe for being drunken, is disfranchised of his freedom." On 5 June 1644, he was once again made freeman.

      === Marriage ===John married by about 1632 to [[Priest-38|Sarah Priest]], a daughter of Degory Priest and Sarah (Allerton) Priest.

      === Children ===
      Children of John and Sarah:
      # [[Coombs-45|John Coombs]] b c. 1633; mar Elizabeth Barlow# [[Coombs-366|Francis Coombs]] b c. 1635; mar 1) Deborah Morton, 2) Mary (Barker) Pratt
      On 15 October 1646,
      ''William Spooner came before the Governor and undertook to save the town harmless for any charge that might befall by reason of a child that Mrs. Coombs left with him when she went for England, and which he undertook to keep & provide for.''
      Possibly both children were left, as the court ordered on 1 August 1648,
      ''the children of the said Mrs. Combe, now being with William Spooner, that the said Spooner keep them for the present, and not dispose of them for the future, without further order from the court.''


      === Troubles ===John Coombs was always referred to as either "Mr" or Gent, but as Anderson writes, "he was constantly embroiled in situations which would have been more appropriate for someone at the opposite end of the social spectrum." John was in court for matters of debt eight times, usually as a defendant, and usually the judgement was against him. As mentioned earlier, he was disenfranchised for drunkeness, and his wife went back to England. She may have left the two sons with their father, although we do not know exactly when he died.

      === Death and Legacy ===John died by 15 October 1646. On that date, the court made a decision on the custody of at least one, possibly both, of John's children, his wife having left for England.

      == Sources ==
      :'''Footnotes and citations:'''


      :'''Source list:''' *New England Historical and Genealogical Register, vol. 114 no. 4 (October 1960): 310. ''Notes: Geneaologies in Preparation (Coombes)'', by The Editors. [http://tinyurl.com/y828jt8p AmericanAncestors.org LINK]
      *New England Historical and Genealogical Register, vol. 122 no. 2 (April 1968): 94. ''A Roll of Arms Registered by the Committee on Heraldry Eighth Part'', by NEHGS Committee on Heraldry. [http://tinyurl.com/yc4e5jdx AmericanAncestors.org LINK]
      *The American Genealogist, vol. 71 (1996): pages 247-250. ''The Probable English Origin of Mr. John Coombs of Plymouth Colony'', Robert S. Wakefield, FASG. [http://tinyurl.com/yalvjwpp AmericanAncestors.org LINK]

      :'''See also:'''* Wakefield, Robert S., editor, General Society of Mayflower Descendants (GSMD), ''Five Generations'' series, Vol 8